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Monday, November 21, 2011

PERBINCANGAN PESTA SEKS DAN GOLONGAN HOMOSEKSUAL- RASIONALNYA..

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· I really don't understand all the fuss and criticism on the Sexualiti Merdeka Festival. How could something that is suppose to educate and enlighten people be bad? It's not even promoting homosexual lifestyle or anything, it's all about making the populace understand be and be more accepting of these people..peeps what's your say in this?

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November 12 at 7:02am · Like

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Mohamad Riduan we can educate them with other kindly methods. in malaysia we have sensitivity, because of that we have respect each other..

November 12 at 10:34am · Like

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PaulX And that is exactly what the Festival is about. To let them know that this minority exists in Malaysia, and to help them to change their mindset regarding it. This is in no way a gay parade, an orgy or anything lurid...the people need to understand it properly before condemning it

November 12 at 11:15am · Like

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Mohamad Riduan i think malaysian already knew they were exist..we cant be like america.. there is too open minded.. there is no change if we notify them... the growing of this people still occur.. parents should know how to shape them in right way.. we live in our originity..like the opposite not same sex.. but im not blame them.. they have to change.. its all about efforts and pray..

November 12 at 6:37pm · Like

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PaulX You talk as if they choose to be gay or lesbian. Homosexuality is not a disease or a mental condition. How can you change something that comes naturally to you? That is just wishful thinking my friend. So rather than change them, we should try to change our way of seeing them. And that's why this event is organized in the first place...

November 12 at 6:42pm · Like

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Mohamad Riduan what types of education? what we have to change? what people have to hear?

November 12 at 6:44pm · Like

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PaulX Our way of thinking. We need to know that gays or lesbians are normal people too, despite the different sexual preference. How they live their lives (and have sex with) is entirely their own affair. This is to help eliminate any discrimination against these people. Yes, we might not agree with them, but it doesn't mean we need to deny them the same opportunity as others. That is the purpose of this event. Hopefully more events like this will be held in the future.

November 12 at 6:49pm · Like

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Mohamad Riduan as the researchers have made, there are several reasons this happen, it mayb causes by their background, experiences or chemistry product that influence their hormones... there are abundance of negatives effect if we allowed it. spreading of diseases, less survival of humanity, and disaster will take over.. did u know about luth people at the ancient time history.? how god give them disaster..

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PaulX Yes, I know the story of the Sodomites in the Bible. And of course there's many negative effects if they are having sex indiscriminately. But since then, people have learn many ways to curb this, such as safe sex and having only single partners. Plus, what's the talk about less survival of humanity when there's advanced technology like artificial insemination? And though many things can help to shape a person in adult life, can you explain a gay man or lesbian woman who are what they are despite having a 'normal' upbringing? There are gay men out there who are just like straight ones. Please, don't think gays are just transvestites or transsexuals only. That is so narrow minded of you people..=P

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· Mohamad Riduan

November 13

Mohamad Riduan

o i would like to discuss it here frenz...

actually, when we always thinking freely without any guided from the God references, we will lose track friends.. we here on earth has the aim. we are given such a holy qoran or bible(yours) to guide us. we are not fight for our thinking. we have to respect the other religion as we want to live in peacefullness. we have to accept it. we live in malaysia with majority. we cant simply ignore the majority believe because it is such a rude.you should make any research on this believe. anyway, as i said, people should back to the natural state by any effort because when a child live on earth, they like a piece of white paper, they is natural. the parents, environment will influence them in becoming the good or bad ones. it is all about willing to change. the other creatures live in same way. they have to strunggle to find the food even they they have no instict. make it easier and not feel angry because when we lose control, we will lose balancing in thinking which influence by setan.im not intended to blame whOever here, but i just want to give some opinions.

· Mohamad Riduan

November 13

Mohamad Riduan

o frenz.. im not angry with you, but some technology have the advantages and disadvantages for human kind. we cant simply said the technology give us a miracle.. we can see how nuclear can cause disaster once ago.. we see that clon is a good technology.. who knows? how about our genetic arrangement? how can we predict it for next 20 years? actually our knowledge is too limited when we push aside our God rule or guidance.. . the disaster getting big now such as the flood, drough, earthquake and so on is because ourselves hands'. we do not want to think about it. the aids, HIV by using same needle.. and we have advance technology to stop it? it is all about the rule from God..

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o ave advance technology to stop it? it is all about the rule from God.. when we disagree we will get the consequences. but God have the reason. there is no prove to say that it will be ok.

· Mohamad Riduan

November 13

Mohamad Riduan

o but im really sorry, i know who the homo really are. i have some of them. im really pity on them. but what ive to do is to make awareness on them. the awareness session should be guided by each of religion and did not said as 'pesta seks merdeka'.. who can accept it frenz?? if they have a good intention, make it very clear and can be accepted by all. we all live in multiracial country.. we have to bare all the things together.. living and working together as a unity.
if someone who homo, im not blame THEM to be like that? yah they have right.. they have RIGHT to change to the original state.. we have to help them.. but how far we can help them if they full of eager to push it aside.
i can say that this pesta seks merdeka is such of political hindrance.(gangguan). it really want to make our unity become shaking and various of view.
we have advance technology now, so why we create a good technology for making homo become a natural people or back to the originality?
why we have to accept the luth people had destroy because that kind of things again and again when we see abundance of negative effects.. it is wordless frenz.. we have to be garatitude to God.. we already face a big problems with diffrent kinds of problems>>> rape, robbery, penzinaan, sumbang mahram, dan masalah lain which belum selesai... it's all created by the west country frenz.. their society become broking down frenz...

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o but
if s
w their society become broking down frenz...
if u see, sesuatu tamadun akan menjadi gah dan berjaya dalam erti kata sebenar apabila penduduknya menghormati tuhan, bersikap baik, mengamalkan kehidupan sebenar, baik akhlak.. dan cintakan ilmu...

· Paul BarbieMania

November 13

PaulX

o Hi there, I would appreciate it if u would write it down on my wall. I wanted this to be a public discourse...

Your opinion is, as I expected, typical of those who shared it with you. Condescending and bigoted. I'm sorry, but I still don't see it the way you do. You are implying that people choose to be gay/lesbian, and that being a homo is just another form of debauchery (maksiat). Indeed, you betray your contempt and disdain for these people, which is definitely a form of discrimination against them. Once again, I state my belief that being a homo is as normal as being straight, and though you might find it distasteful, you need to accept it and instead try to change your point of view regarding them.


My religion (Roman Catholicism), also regards homosexuality as something contrary to the will of God. But I believe that God's power extended beyond those written in the Bible or any other sacred writing. If God can make man and woman fall in love with each other, there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to make man and man or vice versa felt the same way. Saying that it against God's nature is like understating the power of God himself. Indeed, the power of God is in the many possibilities in this world, rather than in passages of scripture of any religion. Heck, the Bible itself is (although divinely inspired), is written by man, and is subject to man's limitation and point of view. hence, it doesn't even begin to describe God's infinite powers. Bottom line is that not everything is written in the Bible or Quran or other sacred writing. So we need to open up our mind and accept every possibility. No need to talk about the end of the world or the disasters happening recently. It's the work of everyone, not just gays or lesbians.

I also disagree with you that this event should be stopped just to appease the majority. In the first place, why is the majority offended, and is the offense supposedly committed merit the wrath that they show the organizers? Do they even understand the real motive of the event, or just lashing out just because they hear the word 'sex"? And even if it is stopped anyway, do you think that it is okay to leave it as it is? Are you okay with the rights of minority being trampled just to make the majority happy?

And I don't see why you should blame Western influence on everything that is wrong in our society. The baby throwing (buang bayi) thing, is that a Western import? As far as I know, the people there took care of their baby or give them to adoption if they don't want them. Only here people do that to avoid the shame, the social stigma and of course, the censure of people like you.

Well, that my 2 cents. No, I'm not angry, I'm just saying what I feel. I respect your opinions and thank you for sharing them, but I can't share it with you.


And I don't see why you should blame Western influence on everything that is wrong in our society. The baby throwing (buang bayi) thing, is that a Western import? As far as I know, the people there took care of their baby or give them to adoption if they don't want them. Only here people do that to avoid the shame, the social stigma and of course, the

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o their baby or give them to adoption if they don't want them. Only here people do that to avoid the shame, the social stigma and of course, the censure of people like you.

Well, that my 2 cents. No, I'm not angry, I'm just saying what I feel. I respect your opinions and thank you for sharing them, but I can't share it with you.

· Paul BarbieMania

November 13

PaulX

o Last paragraph: I thank you for sharing your opinion, but to think the same way as you, I think not.

That's the actual meaning, hehehe..the sentence is a bit screwed...sorry...=)

· Mohamad Riduan

o no, i know what u want to deliver and sometimes i always think as u are.. why God create the homo.. im not suppose to blame them. their live are determined by themselves, God has give such a burden or challenge to them to compete of sacrifice..i sure with this sacrifice, god will pay it after we died. it is how God wants us become higher ranking by god side..but im sure everyone has the religion view or believe.. so for me let us back to our believe.. i try to write it here to avoid any sensitivy by others.. and i know the western has the positive value too.. here in malaysia also a lot of the positive value too and stay in harmony, why we should we shaking this unity by this matter, the government do not prohibited who your frenz. and u having sex with who?.. but i think if we allow the homo exist in 'real' situation.. i would say that this world will become unbalance...we will see more gay couple loitering here and there, kissing and other activities, they will make other new problems

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o no, i know the western has the positive value too.. here in malaysia also a lot they will make other new problems that we donot know like the efluenza, it can be more complicated by time..., in order to avoid it, we try to stop it by good manner. i do know, myb it is the sign for us to end the living like what in holy qoran said. when the world getting at the edge of the end, there are lot of unbalance, disaster, sin..that people think it is right..i know that is all about feeling but plz.. we have the way we are listing by God to followed..

we are in malaysia it is the fact. the islamic country. plz try to respect each other. we hope we can stay longer forever..each country has their own rule right?? China, America, Perancis, India.. sometimes we do not see what the other challenging that have been create for people there....

· Mohamad Riduan

o how about the technology that can be use for make us become normal??

· Mohamad Riduan

o everything that we do in life must be guided by God.. but nowadays, people always forget about God and do whatever they like... i think it happen in every religion now..

· Mohamad Riduan

Tuesday

Mohamad Riduan

o now.. u are not answer my question.. im not blame you.. in life people can change.. mayb in child they are very bad person but when they are

Mohamad Riduan

· now.. u are not answer my question.. im not blame you.. in life people can change.. mayb in child they are very bad person but when they are elder become more kind. it all about how u want to change.

steps that u have take in avoiding this are
1) stop watch whatever pornografic, DVD or video, pictures
2) determine urself to change as normal person
3) closer to god.. myb u can go to church frequently
4) helping the other in many works
5) involve with people who are normal
6) trying to know female..
7) ask urself, what u want to be?
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make some research on religion
9) think that TECHNOLOGY IS NOT GOD
10) do not always think you are gay but think u are normal
11) involve in challeging activities..
12) stop make hobby that close to female.. slowly..


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sebagai kesimpulannya..

1) kita sebagai masyarakat jangan sesekali menghina golongan seperti ini sebaliknya berusaha membantu mereka ke arah kebenaran

2) sebagai golongan yang mempunyai agama sebagai panduan hidup, ikutlah cara sebenar

3) jangan sesekali memikirkan bahwa teknologi boleh menyelesaikan segala-gala masalah

4) zaman yang kita lalui ini merupakan akhir zaman..

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